Posted December 09, 2013

SI.com’s annual People’s Heisman vote

A.J. McCarron, Heisman, Heisman Trophy, Jameis Winston, Johnny Football, Johnny Manziel, Jordan Lynch
Who earns a spot on your Heisman ballot? Vote below!

It’s time to cast your vote. Who earns a spot on your Heisman Trophy ballot? Vote below! (AP Photos)

It’s been an interesting year for the Heisman as the race has been rattled by incidents both on and off the field. With all of the games completed, it’s time to cast your ballot. Who gets your vote for the Heisman this year? Will be another redshirt freshman showing composure beyond his years? A consistent dual-threat quarterback who nearly led his team to a second BCS berth? Or maybe a late-emerging running back whose yeoman’s work carried his squad into the national championship? SI.com wants to hear who’s your choice.

Cast your vote in our annual People’s Heisman poll to have your voice heard. Just like on the actual Heisman ballot, SI.com’s People’s Heisman ballot awards three points for a first-place vote, two points for a second-place vote and one point for a third-place vote. Make your picks by 11:59 p.m. on Thursday and be sure to check back on Friday, Dec. 13, to see which player earned America’s support.

ELLIS: Winston, Manziel among six finalists for Heisman Trophy

 

 

98 comments
JeffBockert
JeffBockert

AJ McCarron isn't even in the top three players on his team. 

Bamafan1892
Bamafan1892

A.J. McCarron has earned the Heisman award or at-least some kind of award, you tell me if McCarron is all of these.


#1. Do y'all think he's a leader?

#2. Do y'all think he has good character?

#3. Do y'all think he's a winner?


Say 0-3 if you fully disagree. 

Say 1-3 is you kinda disagree\kinda agree.

Say 2-3 if you agree. 

Say 3-3 if you completely agree.



Remember be honest! ;) and I'll let you have your own opinion.



A.J. McCarron fun fact: Alabama QB A.J. McCarron has the same amount of interceptions in his whole career (13).  As Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel does this season (13).


NUMBERS
NUMBERS

What you HAVE to look at when selecting a Heisman winner is PLAYMAKING ABILITY. If we are talking quarterbacks alone, Manziel is such a better playmaker. He personally puts his team in a position to win. (AGAINST BETTER OPPONENTS THAN FSU) Winston on the other hand seems to heave the ball to an outstanding Benjamin. Benjamin, in fact, is a better playmaker. If we are talking all of the Heisman candidates together, Tre Mason is hands down the best. Individually puts the team on his back and makes outstanding plays on his own. He is CURRENTLY the best player in college football, and that's what the Heisman should be about. Btw, Winston threw 2 picks in conference championship, 2 against Miami, and one against Clemson. Clearly makes bad decisions in big games...

FootballFan124
FootballFan124

Integrity is included in the Heisman Trust's mission statement for the Heisman trophy. The definition of integrity is: adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty. If they are no longer going to include integrity in their selection of the winner (or nominees for that matter), then the Heisman Trust should remove this word from their mission statement.

ConnieOttsCampbell
ConnieOttsCampbell

Yup, it's WAY too obvious that you are using a voting app.   So sorry that you feel that inadequate that you have to cheat to try to win...   Goes to show that, well, it is what it is...    

Keats1821
Keats1821

I've seen talk below of Winston's numbers not matching up with past Heisman winners like Tebow, Newton or Manziel. That may be true, but you have to realize that they all had more attempts than Winston, who has had his team so far ahead they have either run the ball or pulled him from games. Look at the numbers: Tebow had 560 total attempts (passing and rushing), Newton 544 and Manziel 635. Winston had 426. So let's prorate their numbers to see how they all stack up with an equal amount of attempts. We'll throw in AJ McCarron to dispel any claims that he should be a clear favorite. (Total 698 attempts. 434 passing and 264 rushing, equalling the high marks from the 5 players.)

McCarron: 4026 total yards, 37 TDs and 7 INTs

Tebow: 5199 total yards, 69 TDs and 7 INTs

Newton: 5896 total yards, 67 TDs and 11 INTs

Manziel: 5558 total yards, 54 TDs and 9 INTs

Winston: 5453 total yards, 61 TDs and 12 INTs

So you can see, if you look at the full scope, just how special Winston's season has been. We can't look at the numbers alone to judge. We have to look at them in aggregate with the circumstances that surround them in order to see just how truly special that player is. Take McCarron. His numbers are anything but mediocre. I truly believe he is a special player and hope that he plays every Sunday for the next 15 years. But Winston was simply a better player this year who led his team to a spot in the championship. The Heisman should be his to lose.

Nobama
Nobama

AJ Heisman....he deserves it as much as Mark Ingram didn't!!!! What a scam!

Nobama
Nobama

Bamma is a bunch of mouth breathing red necks who attach them selves to the midget cheater coach who has bought more cars for their players... hell Rent Richardson even got a house for his baby momma  in Bammerham...also had a brand new taho ..like Aj he had a new camaro bought by Mcconnell they have perfected CHEATING!!1

MattS
MattS

Looks like they have been voting for their buddy down at the Florida state penitentiary 

Nobama
Nobama

I read where AJ momma is related to the Wood family from Theodore ...you know the ones that have been arrested for child molestation and incest....Google her and you will see her maiden name..Why does he have his mother tatooed on his chest?   Hahah he will never make it in the pros...no bammer does

Bamafan1892
Bamafan1892

Winston is really good, and talented...but I don't see how he would be a run-away type of Heisman winner.  He has thrown 10 interceptions...and his stats aren't great like 


Tim Tebow's, 

Cam Newtons's, 

or Johnny Manziel's. 


He's really talented, but it's not like Tebow having 55 total TDs, or Cam Newton 49 TDs.  So he's good, but I don't see how he's such a Heisman favorite. 

Bamafan1892
Bamafan1892

I know some people disagree, and that's fine everybody has their own opinions.  But I say A.J. McCarron deserves more credit than people give him, and this is why. 


#1. He's a leader, 

#2. he's a 3-time national champ, 

#3. he's game smart, and has good character.


That's why, and he doesn't make many mistakes.  Roll Tide! 

JamesHeneghan
JamesHeneghan

If Jameis Winston doesn't win the Heisman, I'm rioting!

Keats1821
Keats1821

Tre Mason is surely deserving of his spot as a finalist, but I don't see how his numbers necessarily support him over Winston. People saying that he played tougher opponents are mistaken. The average rank of his opponents' rushing defense this year was 63.4. The average rank of Winston's opponents' pass defense efficiency (the NCAA's stat for Pass D) was 63.3. So they are comparable.

Keep in mind Mason only has 1742 offensive yards. The 2100+ that people are referring to includes kickoff returns, and he returned none for a TD. He is 6th in rushing yards, 3rd in rushing TDs and not even top 20 in yards per attempt. He is, though, 5th in rushing attempts.

Winston is 12th in completion percentage, 8th in passing yards, 2 in TDs, 1st in passing YPA, 1st in yards per play (includes rushing and passing), 1st in passing efficiency. But he wasn't top 20 in passing attempts, which means he did more with less attempts in respect to the Carr's, Bridgewater's, etc.

In short, you have two players who played the same level of defenses. But one has numbers based on heavy attempts, and who was only a standout for half the season. The other has very impressive numbers with fewer attempts, and who was a standout from day one.

Again, it isn't that Mason is undeserving of consideration. But I would give it to Williams, Lynch, Mariota or Winston before I handed it to Mason.

Bamafan1892
Bamafan1892

@JeffBockert It depends on how you look at it, without McCarron Bama wouldn't be as successful as they are.   I'd say he is, you really have to follow Bama football to know that.

BeauBradshaw
BeauBradshaw

@Bamafan1892

Way to campaign for your boy. The comparison between AJ and Johnny Football is interesting, too bad its not JFF that AJ is trailing. Winston has the award in the bag. The real question is who is 2nd?

Jezebel
Jezebel

The context in which the word "integrity" is used in the Heisman mission statement must not be confused with its use within other contexts: For example in the Heisman context the word would mean that Winston is "honestly" a very good quarterback. And, Winston can "honestly" throw that old ball better this year than anybody else. "Truly," he is a force of one in today's college rank. You see there is nothing anybody needs to be defensive about here. Winston's supporting cast of teammates who stood behind him, or even opened his busted door to confirm all manners of consensual sex with a “certainly” lucky lady that an hour later unexpectedly if not unappreciatively yelled rape, know that down deep inside where what matters most about a person Winston would have too, just like they “proved” themselves, "honored-up" and said what a lawyer coached. Nobody can doubt that Winston is innocent “by virtue” of default. Meggs found Winston "sincerely" beyond the reach of prosecution. Thus, Winston’s "truly" remarkable gridiron accomplishments can alone be "held in high esteem."

Lee3
Lee3

What makes you such a great judge of someone's integrity that you don't even know?

GregFord1
GregFord1

@Keats1821 Using your own logic; A.J. McCarron should be the walk away winner. His stats, coming while playing for a run oriented offense; who eats up the clock in EVERY game, is outstanding. the TD-INT ratio is WELL above Winston's, and he has lead his team to 2 national championships. 


McCarron's 26 TDs- 5 INT versus Winston's 38-10 is also very much in McCarron's favor.also, winston was sacked 23 times, with an experienced OL, while McCarron was sacked only 10 times, with a VERY young OL. This shows awareness in the pocket, and the ability and intelligence to not take a sack.

 Not to say that Winston isn't a Heisman quality QB. Just pointing out how there are so many different ways to determine who is more deserving. 

YourMom
YourMom

you're right..12 interceptions is pretty bad.

GregFord1
GregFord1

@Nobama Do I sense an angry LSU fan, or maybe a sore Ohio state fan?

MichaelLHarkness
MichaelLHarkness

agree loan haha got should knock AJ out like rape case question of pure fact program was caught giving out money. FBI prove Auburn was clean swept out and hasn't been on probation since 1993 bowl ban for helping a starving kid by booster. Unlike 3 peat flucker up program gets 2009 weak probation for book store, suit store and loan from coach which excuse was my car got broken into bull what car insurance is for. If he cant offord that how he drive the car?

YourMom
YourMom

typical auburn or lsu fan! lol  keep crying!

YourMom
YourMom

watch out folks...we're dealing with a 12 year old here! 

StevePerry
StevePerry

@Bamafan1892 The heisman isn't a career award, or he would win in a landslide.  Winston is having the better year.

Bamafan1892
Bamafan1892

Remember, I know some will disagree and if you do it's completely fine with me.  Thanks! 

YourMom
YourMom

Mason wouldn't have nearly the yardage if Auburn didn't run the ball 90% of the time.  Also, they use slight of hand to trick the D line as to where the ball is going.  It's not like Mason is this uber elusive or punishing back.  Tough to defend an offense when you can't see who's carrying the ball.

Adolfis
Adolfis

@MargieHenderson Whats the deal with Satan I mean Saban. I thought the extension was signed now it isnt and they are negotiating? Hmmmmmm Is that Texas I hear calling?

JoshuaBgwDay
JoshuaBgwDay

@GregFord1 @Keats1821 Heisman has nothing to do with what hes done previous years.  AJ's stats arent even close.  hes not even in the top 10 QBs


Keats1821
Keats1821

@MichaelHarkness The average rank of pass defense that McCarron faced: 68.2. The average rank of defense that Winston faced: 63.3. So Winston and his ACC schedule actually faced better pass defenses than McCarron and his SEC schedule.

@GregFord1 The purpose of prorating stats is to mostly, albeit not completely, alleviate any concerns about what offense the player is in. Perhaps you missed this, but the numbers above show what would have happened if each player had the same number of total pass and rush attempts. Therefore, his team's propensity to run the ball is irrelevant. Add to that the fact that FSU had only 3 yards rushing less per game than Bama shows they were every bit the rushing that Bama was. That FSU had 48 more rushes on the year than Bama might be construed as FSU being a more run oriented team. At the very least, FSU and Bama should be considered equal in how much they ran the ball. Neither team is a spread offense like Florida, Auburn or A&M were when the other QBs listed above won their Heisman.

And yes, McCarron had a better TD-INT ratio. He also took less sacks. But Winston had 16 more TDs than McCarron, as well. And he was only sacked 1.7 times a game. That's average, yes, but not an indication that he is a poor QB. Instead, it might be more an indication that he is a Freshman.

Please also keep in mind that according to the Heisman Trust this is a year to year award and not a career award, so McCarron's national championships have nothing to do with the voting.

In the end, the fact that Winston and McCarron both played in rush-based offenses and that Winston had superior numbers, even when prorated so that all attempts are equal, shows that McCarron really isn't worthy of the Heisman over him.

MichaelLHarkness
MichaelLHarkness

Tre Mason not only runner either. He putting up more but he not the only member on team putting it up he put most up. Made some records. On rank top 10 teams and D's line was stopping everyone else. He have more if gus did work on passing game in the small team games like Akr ST. He rested Tre share the team weakness to get them better. But last 3 games we needed Tre be big against big teams he did it. Heisman vote should be after NC game that tell who real deal is. Last year vote would been different too.

Adolfis
Adolfis

@YourMom And your point is what? Besides the fact that your a Moronic booby faced wiener! 

MichaelLHarkness
MichaelLHarkness

Tre Mason for me he rb. But he leading his team to the wins. Class ask AJ where he goes after he looses. Tre shook LSU guys hand AJ ran off the field. Show he lack class when he down. Tre Mason year this not 4 year trophy this is one year thing. If that be the case Tebow  had better stats ingram did 09. 


JeffBockert
JeffBockert

@Keats1821  I'm warning you, don't use actual data in discussions with these southern boys. They don't understand it. They simply believe everything ESPN and SI tell them. 

Youprobablysuck
Youprobablysuck

@Adolfis his point is Tre mason's yards aren't exactly all of his own accord, Auburns style of offense guaranteed him a lot of rushing yards. and moronic booby faced wiener? really? are you 11?

Adolfis
Adolfis

@YourMom Is that because he moves so razor quick! Seriously make a little sense dude!

YourMom
YourMom

what's elsusive?  


the only thing mason cuts on a dime is his hair. 

Adolfis
Adolfis

@YourMom Masons biggest games came against the toughest teams in the country!


Elsusive? This guy could cut on a dime and give you back change before you blinked!

YourMom
YourMom

You watch your mouth Adolf.