Posted December 08, 2013

AP Poll: Florida State and Auburn are the top two, Alabama No. 3 after Week 15

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Auburn’s late surge saw them shoot up to No. 2 in the newest AP poll. (Todd Kirkland/Icon SMI)

Say goodbye to the regular season. The Army-Navy game is the last vestige of 2013, and college football moves on to bowls before hibernating for the long winter. What a way to go out, with former No. 2 Ohio State falling to Michigan State in the Big Ten championship, Baylor winning its first Big 12 title and Auburn and Missouri giving fans a thriller for the SEC.

The Week 16 AP Poll has No. 1 and No. 2 precisely how the BCS standings will look: Florida State and Auburn. Although teams will be shifted around with the computers and the polls that make up the rankings, the AP Poll can help as everyone starts to come up with their remaining bowl predictions. Alabama is at No. 3, with Michigan State and Pac-12 winner Stanford rounding out the top five.

The complete AP Poll (with first-place votes in parenthesis) is below:

1. Florida State (56)
2. Auburn (4)
3. Alabama
4. Michigan State
5. Stanford
6. Baylor
7. Ohio State
8. South Carolina
9. Missouri
10. Oregon
11. Oklahoma
12. Clemson
13. Oklahoma State
14. LSU
15. UCF
16. Arizona State
17. UCLA
18. Louisville
19. Wisconsin
20. Texas A&M
21. Fresno State
22. Duke
23. Georgia
24. Northern Illinois
25. Notre Dame

Here are a few thoughts from this week’s results:

• With Oklahoma’s win over Oklahoma State, the Big 12′s chance to get two teams into the BCS is in jeopardy, although the Sooners have a shot. They travel well and those bowl games end up being more about money and attention than finding the best teams or matchups. After the up-and-down season Oklahoma had, including the loss to Texas, it’s kind of stunning the Sooners have a shot at an at-large BCS bid in the first place. It’s been one of the quieter 10-win seasons for Bob Stoops, who dealt with a quarterback carousel and a bevy of injuries over the course of the year.

• It’s looking like one of Clemson or Oregon will be left out if Oklahoma gets in with another of the at-large bids. A spot opened up when Northern Illinois lost to Bowling Green in the MAC championship on Friday. There are plenty of ways to make a case for why a team deserves to get in, but Oregon got creative, citing Facebook and Instagram likes. “O brave new world, That has such people in’t!”

• Four AP voters thought enough of Auburn’s late season surge to give the Tigers No. 1 votes. They beat Alabama and No. 9 Missouri in back-to-back weeks and did have a better strength of schedule by the numbers than FSU. The Seminoles passed the eye test all year, though, pummeling everything that was set in front of them. At least the BCS sorted itself out, and we’ll know soon enough who is truly No. 1.

38 comments
Wesley11
Wesley11

"Comparing No. of likes on official football Facebook pages"

Likes on Facebook pages make football teams good to the same degree they cure cancer, end world hunger, and stop sex trafficking. 

James C
James C

For those people who are saying that a team in a playoff system should not have to play a team they already played in a tourney game, I think you need some reminders. First, it is not uncommon for teams who have already played to play again during a post-season national championship tourney. 


These events are designed to get the best teams to play each other later in the championship season. You take the best X teams (x being the number in the event) and seed them. You then play the games on the field/court/ect. 


If two teams happen to be from the same conference or even division, but they are among the best in the country, then they should play. 


In the DII football playoffs this season we had multiple repeat game situations. Grand Valley State University beat rival Saginaw Valley State University in the final game of the regular season. As a result, GVSU was granted the #4 seed in the region, while SVSU was granted the #5 seed. They played again, 1 week later and the result was a much wider GVSU victory the second time around. 


A similar situation happened in another region where a team won the first meeting (second to last week of the season), and then had to play the same opponent they beat initially a second time in the playoffs. The result was reverse and the team who lost the first game is now in the NCAA DII semi-finals (as well as GVSU). 



Post-season playoffs are designed to determine based on on field play, who the best teams are. If it means a rematch so be it. 


Basketball has also had it's series of rematches. The 1976 title game between Michigan and Indiana was a rematch of two previous games that had been played that season. 


One other football note: What if LSU had not lost two 4 point games to Georgia and Mississippi? They would also have been 11-1 and would have been tri-champs of the SEC West. What would a committee do for a post-season spot? Leave one of them out? How would you make that decision? Who would be left out? The current BCS system would have left one of them out with it's two team limit.  

ILoveMyWife
ILoveMyWife

I wish they would quit showing us the AP poll.  The AP poll has been completely meaningless for several years now.  It has no bearing whatsoever on the BCS rankings.  I could make a poll of my own which would have just as much relevance.

BryanWagner
BryanWagner

At least the championship game isnt Louisville and UCF, what if they went undefeated and FSU lost one game?

ZacharyDean
ZacharyDean

I'm a Buckeye willing to admit he was wrong; MSU outplayed us all night. Congrats to them for the victory and Rose Bowl trip they earned. And good luck to FSU and AU in the title game.

FLAdomer
FLAdomer

I will miss the BCS but let's see how the next systems goes1

sileser
sileser

BCS didn't turn out to be so bad this year for the championship game. We may miss it sometimes in the future. 

dandogwood
dandogwood

UCF don't belong in any top bowl.

MikeSchultz
MikeSchultz

BS that MIAMI doesn't end up in the Top #25 over a 8-4 ND Team that lost to a Horrible PITT Team while the CANES Beat them down? Either way things are looking up for my CANES since the NCAA BS Clouds have Cleared an it's a New Golden Era, especially with next Year's Massively Talented Recruitment Class which is Top 3-5 Right now. But Beating TEXAS A&M will Prove to be a Challenge.

AndyKersten
AndyKersten

Auburn beat more top 5 teams yesterday that Ohio st. has in the past 2 years lol. 

Cool
Cool

And Notre Dame makes it into the top 25 because.... well they are Notre Dame, heck they don't have to win or prove themselves, they just need to suit up.

PhilipBrown
PhilipBrown

Oregon And Oklahoma should be in the BCS bowls, and forget about clemson, they are overrated, and the media has a weird obession with them


Rickapolis
Rickapolis

The SEC has four teams in the top 10. And I don't think you can argue with any of them.

NoQNoSuperBowl
NoQNoSuperBowl

You could make an argument that one loss Stanford Baylor and Michigan St. have a claim to be #2, but it wouldn't be a good argument. Auburn beat two top five teams in a row, yesterday they didn't need a miracle to do it. They deserve the shot.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

Well, since Louisville and UCF played each other two months ago the odds of your scenario playing out are about nil.

Thomas5
Thomas5

Hahahaha!  You either A) Make money directly off this terrible system, or B) are an SEC homer for which the entire system seemed rigged to help get into the championship game.  Bye, bye BCS... don't know if the new system will be much better, but it likely cannot be worse.

historiskull
historiskull

@sileser We certainly will. Just think, 'bama could be playing Auburn AGAIN after the SEC championship game in this playoff system. What?? You mean Auburn wins the division (in a head to head match with 'bama), then wins the conference, and then has to play # 2 in the their DIVISION, AGAIN. You're kidding me. It's just like LSU vs 'bama in 2009 all over again...  

ILoveMyWife
ILoveMyWife

UCF is the second best football school in the state and has the second highest enrollment of any school in the country. UCF is here to stay among the big boys.

Ari1966
Ari1966

@dandogwood Why not? They won their conference and a BCS bowl game is what the winner gets.  I guess you were expecting Louisville and the "great" Teddy B to win it but UCF took care of that. They earned it so give them some credit d'wood.

ChiefG
ChiefG

@AndyKersten   Who really cares?   How does Ohio State affect your life?   Did your team win?

Must be a Auburn fan. Watch Florida State blow them out in Championship game. I know I will.

Matthew W
Matthew W

apparently their wins from 30, 40, and 50 years ago still count for them.....the same time frame they were last relevant.

sileser
sileser

@Cool No, because they beat the team ranked below them at 26 (and had a tougher strength of schedule - which is why the computers love them more than the human polls). 

olansuddeth
olansuddeth

Agreed, except that Stanford has two losses.  


When all is said and done, though, I don't see how you can argue with Auburn's resume.  I'm expecting an exciting national championship game.

ILoveMyWife
ILoveMyWife

That's the kind of crap that will make the playoff system suck.  But the good outweighs the bad.

ILoveMyWife
ILoveMyWife

Pretty sure they were relevant last year and they did win a title in the 1990s.  As a disclaimer, I dislike Our Lady University immensely.

Wired
Wired

@Matthew W - I hate notre dame but c'mon man.  They weren't the second best team in the country last year - but they did beat some teams in major conference and finish undefeated - they were relevant then --- Glad they got smashed though.

Wesley11
Wesley11

It can suck, yes.

It's how you wind up with 14-6 Giants beating a 19-0 Patriots and being declared the best team for that year.

jeffcooper71
jeffcooper71

Does the NFL playoff system suck?. Certainly you realize that teams play in the playoff who played in the regular season or is this news to you?  Wouldn't the NFL be awesome if they replace an undisputed champion with a bowl system?

historiskull
historiskull

@Wired @Matthew W Yup. Everyone knew they (an undefeated team) would get smashed. The program is still building, however, they lucked themselves into that NC game earlier this year.