Posted December 01, 2013

AP Poll: Florida State the new No. 1, Ohio State climbs to No. 2 after wild Week 14

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Ohio State moved up to No. 2 in the AP Poll after beating Michigan 42-41 on Saturday. (Gregory Shamus/Getty Images)

Rivalry Week gave college football fans everything they could bargain for and more, and it ensured there will be plenty of talking points leading into Championship Saturday. Following Auburn’s improbable 34-28 upset of Alabama, there’s a new top-ranked squad in the AP Poll for the first time this season. Florida State sits at No. 1, with Ohio State finally ascending to the No. 2 spot it exited after the preseason.

Obviously, the BCS standings are the ones that count, but the AP Poll is a solid temperature gauge. There will certainly be lots of campaigning leading into next week’s games as teams make their final case for why they belong in the national championship game. Auburn has already started, with athletic director Jay Jacobs saying the Tigers deserve a BCS shot. (That is, of course, if Auburn can beat Missouri in the SEC title game in Atlanta.)

The other Tigers, who beat Texas A&M 28-21 on Saturday, stayed at No. 5, while Alabama dropped to No. 4. Oklahoma State moved up to No. 6 — and that puzzling 30-21 loss at West Virginia on Sept. 28 is the lone thing keeping the Cowboys out of the championship conversation.

The complete AP Poll (with first-place votes in parenthesis) is below:

1. Florida State (58)
2. Ohio State
3. Auburn (2)
4. Alabama
5. Missouri
6. Oklahoma State
7. Stanford
8. South Carolina
9. Baylor
10. Michigan State
11. Arizona State
12. Oregon
13. Clemson
14. LSU
15. UCF
16. Northern Illinois
17. UCLA
18. Oklahoma
19. Louisville
20. Duke
21. Wisconsin
22. Texas A&M
23. Texas
24. Fresno State
25. Georgia

Here are a few thoughts from this week’s poll:

• Michigan State (11-1) will have a real opportunity to cap off an already impressive season. The Spartans were largely disregarded coming into the year, and they had a lot of trouble generating offense early this fall. However, bolstered by a strong defense and improved play from quarterback Connor Cook and running back Jeremy Langford, Michigan State is in the Big Ten title game with a shot at the Rose Bowl. It has climbed all the way up to No. 10.

• Wisconsin was in line for a potential BCS at-large bid entering Saturday’s matchup with Penn State. But the Nittany Lions played spoiler, knocking the Badgers (9-3) all the way down to No. 21 in the latest AP Poll. Wisconsin will now likely be on the outside looking in. That controversial 32-30 loss at Arizona State way back on Sept. 14 still has to sting.

• Speaking of the Sun Devils, Arizona State (10-2) continued its rise, moving up to No. 11 after winning its seventh straight with a 58-21 trouncing of Arizona. Coach Todd Graham’s squad will host Stanford in the Pac-12 championship; it has been one of the hottest teams in football down the stretch.

205 comments
wehra17
wehra17

I add one 2 Ohio State and FSU versing easy teams, NCAA needs a playoff system.

playemball
playemball

There's no jumping going on..you're looking at the 2 teams in the NCG..FSU and OSU..done deal!

joe6647
joe6647

Heres how a college football playoff should work:

8 teams make it

- The big 4 conference winners auto qualify

- Two at large bids for the highest ranked big 4 teams

- Two at large bids for the highest ranked non-BCS conference winners (to let the little guys in)

fishinmusician
fishinmusician

If you only want to look at SOS to determine ranking, then you have to look at the rating of conferences since the majority of games for any team are conference games. 

FSU plays in a conference that is 3-13 in BCS bowl history, while OSU alone is 6-3 in BCS bowl games and plays in a conference that is 12-14.  

Question, how did the ACC suddenly get stronger as a conference while competing head to head with the SEC for recruits?

PhillyFanForever
PhillyFanForever

How about advancing the four team playoff.  Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl host semis (OSU/Auburn); FSU/Alabama and title game to follow.  Lot of $$$ potential.

BudPhyte
BudPhyte

I don't claim that they're the best teams but FSU vs Ohio State is a very attractive match up. I suspect that Ohio State would be favored. The bookmakers would have a higher opinion of  Ohio State than the pollsters. This would have been a great year for a playoff because there are at least ten teams who could beat anybody if they're on their game.

iiibbb
iiibbb

To hell with the SEC.

woody1290
woody1290

What about FSU?  Who have they played?  Oh that's right, a mediocre Clemson team, a way overrated Miami team and now they play DUKE, that's right,DUKE for the ACC championship.  Lets start talking about the hypocrisy here.  58 first place votes in the AP rankings.  The only way these SEC lapdogs are going to be happy is to just put their 2 best teams in the national championship every year.  Hell, why don't all other conferences just quit playing football.  What a joke.

playemball
playemball

Say what you want..I hate this BCS BS! 

heardhimsay
heardhimsay

TV guys keep asking who has the best team but that is not how any other championship is decided.  In 2007 everyone would tell you the Patriots were the best team in the NFL even after they lost to the Giants in the SB but it isn't about who is the best, its about whoever wins out in the playoffs.  My solution is give the top six conferences one representative and add the next two highest teams to an eight team playoff.  Probably never going to happen though...

heardhimsay
heardhimsay

All this debate is very engaging but it is pretty pointless until next week. 

EnashWaca
EnashWaca

If Mich St and Missouri both win, I like Mich St vs FSU in the BCS title game.

Vinny Cordoba
Vinny Cordoba

Mizzou beats Auburn, Duke beats FSU, Mich State beats OSU, Bama beats Mizzou in the NCAA title game.

OswaldoLe'mon
OswaldoLe'mon

Urban Meyer is the greatest coach in all of sports.  The media hate him because he had the balls to call out one their own a few years ago.  The people that think a perfect OSU should not be in the BCS game are idiots.

rossflesh
rossflesh

Some of you are so impatient... why not just wait until all the bowl games are done, and then judge which teams were overrated and which are for real? I am extremely curious to know too, but all this whining about who should be ranked this or that is all nonsense. We ALL know that in one way or another the BCS is SCREWED UP, but your comments aren't going to change it...

Some of y'all should go outside and play with your kids or something, rather than having an argument with someone that lives on the other side of the country...

I'm not here to tick anyone off... but really

JimSnyder
JimSnyder

If you want to be #2, don't lose. Also, don't have half of your games decided by 7 or less points or a loss. 

joe6647
joe6647

@fishinmusician if you go by history and prestige then Notre Dame should be in a BCS bowl every year

joe6647
joe6647

@woody1290 FSU beat every team by 25+, with one exception, BC.  OSU seemed to struggle vs every team.  They even struggled vs a 2 win Northwestern team

StacyHutchens
StacyHutchens

@woody1290 You DO realize the ACC and the SEC are different conferences right?? FSU is NOT SEC.......

heardhimsay
heardhimsay

Eliminate all non-conference games, have each team play a 10 game regular season schedule, add a conference championship game like the SEC.  Then,  take the conference champions from; ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, C-USA, Pac-12, SEC.  Then, take the next 2 highest ranked teams regardless of their conference affiliation and make an 8 team playoff.  The championship game teams will play a total of 15 games, other two final four would play 14, everyone else, 13 games or less.

TheAvatarofSet
TheAvatarofSet

Not a chance in hell. If Michigan and Auburn lose, FSU would be playing Alabama or Missouri for the championship. Michigan State is not going to vault to 2nd.

Ryan1
Ryan1

@EnashWaca 

Mich St doesn't have a shot.

If Mich St wins and Mizzou wins then it will be FSU and Mizzou - if FSU somehow falls, expect Bama to jump back in. 

HerschelAnderton
HerschelAnderton

@EnashWaca if msu and mizzou end up playing each oher in the ncg, i'll never watch sports again.  ever.  

wehra17
wehra17

@OswaldoLe'mon He leaves a team, saying he was 'sick' and then goes to another which he sees has great potential, saying "I finally found my team", and then when his team is drained with crime and moral decay.  He repeats the cycle.  I know this being a Gator fan.  And looking back, did this to Utah and Bowling Green also.  


A faithful coach was Joe Paterno and O' Leary

wehra17
wehra17

@OswaldoLe'mon You are a tard saying that, I am a Gator fan, he sees potential in a team, leaves the old one in ruins, claims he found the right team, and ends up draining the team 2 years later and goes to another school

Oldtimeduffer
Oldtimeduffer

@OswaldoLe'mon We have two high schools in our area who ended the season "perfect".  Should they be in the BCS title game?  How about Ohio State actually plays someone -- their toughest non-conference game was Buffalo?

I actually do hope Ohio State gets to the title game - they will get humiliated just like they did the last time against Florida (I was at that game in Tempe and OSU was absolutely destroyed)

Jimmyfootball
Jimmyfootball

@OswaldoLe'mon Agree that an undefeated OSU team should be in the NC game.  But are you kidding me with Urban Meyer being the greatest coach in all of sports?  Nick Saban makes him look like a little kid playing the latest edition of EA sports' NCAA game.

Jimmyfootball
Jimmyfootball

@rossflesh Well your main problem is you are trying to be rational.  The amassed opionion of posters on si.com is that there are no good college football teams, every single team's schedule is way too easy, the NCAA is in cohoots with every single conference, every polling system is flawed, and if you have a different opinion, you're an idiot. 

fishinmusician
fishinmusician

@JimSnyder Well, actually trying to not lose is every team's goal.  Or did that change south of the Mason Dixon?

fishinmusician
fishinmusician

@joe6647 @fishinmusician History isn't the point.  The point is bs conference rankings.  once a conference is unfairly judged good or bad, it throws off the strength of schedule numbers by a lot.  So my question again, is how do pollsters explain the 2013 favoring of the ACC (remember Clemsen at #3 for a few weeks?)

HerschelAnderton
HerschelAnderton

@heardhimsay .... conferences are arbitrary.  why the hell are in-conference games the measuring stick for an "acceptable" opponent?  did you even think about what the hell you're saying?  if you say "yes" ... then tell me this:  what conference should tulane be in?  you'll find that teams switch conferences all.... the... f-ing... time...


just look at what school like boise state have done or what conferences like the big east have done. 

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@Ryan1 If Michigan St does not have a shot, why are they playing the game?

Ryan1
Ryan1

@Oldtimeduffer @Vinny Cordoba 

He is probably right though

this is a long shot, but if FSU falls, and OSU falls, then who else would jump in?

If Auburn beats Mizzou, FSU loses to Duke, and Mich St beats OSU - a long shot especially with FSU, then you will see an Auburn - Bama rematch

Vinny Cordoba
Vinny Cordoba

@Oldtimeduffer , nah, just a troll seeing how many idiots would take the bait. Looks like just you, oldtimeduffer.

rossflesh
rossflesh

@IBleedBlackandSilver @Jimmyfootball  Just put me in the center of the Alabama hating tOSU/Oregon and Oregon/tOSU hating Alabama battle, so they can all get a piece of my rational self. Haha

And IBleedBlackandSilver I was banned, see I only have 1 (now 2) comment('s). lol jk

joe6647
joe6647

@fishinmusician @joe6647 same with FSU.  They had two losses last year and won the Orange Bowl.  Im sure voters saw that their recruiting class improved their team. Thus, the #11 pre season ranking

joe6647
joe6647

@fishinmusician @joe6647 pre season rankings are garbage.  

I think pollsters go off of how good their recruiting class was in 2013 + how well they finished in 2012. Clemson finished with 2 losses in 2012 plus a bowl win over LSU. 

Im guessing their recruiting class must have improved that team, thus the #3 or whatever ranking

Ryan1
Ryan1

@JoeCabot @Ryan1 

They certainly have a shot to beat OSU - they don't have a shot to go to the title game - that was my point

Ryan1
Ryan1

@FrankBeans @Oldtimeduffer @OswaldoLe'mon 

I agree about FSU but they have smashed everyone decisively and Clemson is a better win than Wisconsin. 

The balance for Bama isn't but they play more tough games and ranked opponents - OSU has played one ranked opponent and they have had some close cals. 

Auburn has bigger wins than Ohio State and a tougher schedule, by the same logic, NIU should be in over Ohio State?