Posted November 03, 2013

Florida State jumps past Oregon to No. 2 in the BCS standings; Miami drops to No. 11

BCS, Polls, Postseason
Jameis Winston and the Seminoles sit at No. 2 in the BCS rankings, but will their easy schedule hurt them? (Don Juan Moore/Getty Images)

Jameis Winston and FSU sit at No. 2 in the BCS standings, but can they stay there?  (Don Juan Moore/Getty Images)

The BCS standings flip-flop between Florida State and Oregon continues this week, as the Seminoles jumped back to No. 2 after their convincing 41-14 blowout of previously undefeated Miami on Saturday. Quarterback Jameis Winston wasn’t invincible — he actually made mistakes! — but he was able to bounce back from two first-half interceptions to finish 21-of-29 for 325 passing yards. Winston and the ‘Noles have proven they’re more than worthy of title game consideration, but their lack of remaining marquee matchups could make it very difficult for them to remain ahead of Oregon should the Ducks stay unbeaten. Oregon’s schedule the rest of the way, which kicks off with Thursday night’s clash against No. 5 Stanford, contains just one meeting with an opponent that doesn’t currently hold a winning record (Nov. 16 against 4-4 Utah). The Seminoles, on the other hand, close the regular season against 4-5 Wake Forest, 4-4 Syracuse, 1-8 Idaho and 4-4 Florida.

Meanwhile, Miami’s loss to Florida State dropped the Hurricanes to No. 11 from No. 7. Notre Dame, which made its first appearance in the BCS standings last week, climbed to No. 23 following a 38-34 win over Navy. And Michigan State knocked in-state rival Michigan out of the Top 25 altogether behind a decisive 29-6 victory in East Lansing. The Spartans moved up to No. 17.

The complete BCS rankings:

1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Oregon
4. Ohio State
5. Stanford
6. Baylor
7. Clemson
8. Missouri
9. Auburn
10. Oklahoma
11. Miami (Fla.)
12. South Carolina
13. LSU
14. Oklahoma State
15. Texas A&M
16. Fresno State
17. Michigan State
18. Northern Illinois
19. UCLA
20. Louisville
21. UCF
22. Arizona State
23. Notre Dame
24. Wisconsin
25. Texas Tech

19 comments
GregSamick
GregSamick

People talk about Ohio State's easy schedule.

After 9 games opponents record is 35-40.   Alabama is 31-38      and  Oregon is 29-40.

And Florida State is  42-25.   Looks like easy schedules for everyone but Florida State.

Schedules are made years in advance. There is now way of knowing how good or bad a opponent will be.

Something needs to change in how weekly rankings are made up.

Cane87
Cane87

Well, look at that.  Miami at #11.  The same position we should be in in the AP poll, with the two-loss teams below us.   Except, of course, that in the AP poll, hatred, retaliation, and punishment are factors.

RichW
RichW

Looks like a strong possibility that one or two undefeated teams will be shut out of the title game this season. There is an idea that is far from perfect, but VASTLY superior to what they have in place. Keep the Bowl system in place. Have the number one team play the number four team, and have numbers 2 and 3 play each other. Then have a championship game between the two winners. The Bowl system stays intact and only one game is added to the schedule. Not tough to pull off at all.

RichW
RichW

Why is Notre Dame back in there? 7-2 isn't a bad record, but they lost to the good teams they played, and their wins have included victories over cream puffs such as Temple, Purdue, Air Force, and a nail biter win over Navy.

joe6647
joe6647

#3 Oregon plays #5 Stanford next week

#2 FSU plays unranked (4-5) Wake Forest next week


Oregon will jump FSU next week if they win

ShifterKart
ShifterKart

I think UA has the hardest road to the title game from here. Two top ten teams and the SEC title game if they win up to that point.

FSU has the easiest....i hope its not, but think it mat end up being FSU and Oregon.

RTR!

cord u
cord u

Wondering how all you feel about the Sagarin rankings? To be trusted? Better/worse than having humans vote?

carnage_2012
carnage_2012

I have a feeling Ohio St will back into the BCS game. BEEP BEEP BEEP

doghockey
doghockey

@Cane87 Yup, the diabolical conspiracy against UM football continues.   New evidence just in!   If every poll does not match, it is sheer evidence of a media bias.   Keep up the great work.

jffinn
jffinn

@RichW Well, you're comment isn't completely accurate, as ND also has wins over Michigan State (BCS #17) and Arizona State (BCS #22). 


Let's play this out your way, though:

Why is Arizona State in there? 6-2 isn't a bad record, but they lost to the good teams they played, and their wins have included victories over cream puffs such as Sacramento State, Colorado and Washington State.

Why is Wisconsin back in there? 6-2 isn't a bad record, but they lost to the good teams they played, and their wins have included victories over cream puffs such as UMass, Tennessee Tech, Purdue and Illinois.

Why is Texas Tech back in there? 7-2 isn't a bad record, but they lost to the good teams they played, and their wins have included victories over cream puffs such as SMU, SFA, Texas State, Kansas and Iowa State.


Sensing a theme?  The bottom of the rankings contains teams that are flawed. Feel free to provide replacements, as @nyhoukcdal asked.

nyhoukcdal
nyhoukcdal

@RichW Are you really harping on the ranking of the #23 team?  OK, let's play along.  Name the team that should be moved up into the top 25 while you drop ND out.  And justify your decision.  

cfmspe
cfmspe

I think the Sagarin ratings are the most reliable, and the most long standing, of those used in the BCS, but note that I'm referring only to Sagarin's non-BCS ratings.     BSC uses the Pure_ELO rating (which is based on formula used for ranking chess players).  For example. Sagarin has Fresno State and Northern Illinois rated in the high 40s, which is where they should be (in my opinion).  OTOH, we're so biased to seeing/believing the rankings as normally put together by humans (i.e., rank all the undefeateds on top of those with one-loss, ditto for one-loss over two-losses, etc.) that it always looks odd when you see a two-loss team ranked ahead of undefeated teams in the computer rankings (unless of course your team is the two loss team).

Ryan19
Ryan19

@cord u I'm not a big fan of the Sagarin rankings used for the BCS.  Sagarin does 3 different rankings and the one that is used for the BCS is the one that he considers to be the least accurate predictor.  That one does not account for margin of victory while the other 2 do.  In his non-BCS rankings Northern Illinois is 45 and 54.  In his BCS rankings, they are 4th.  Does anyone really believe that NIU is one of the top 30 teams in the country?  

MikeNPS
MikeNPS

@carnage_2012 

With their weak schedule, the only way they can get into the championship game is if a couple of teams currently ahead of them lose AND no one behind them moves ahead.  That could happen, but it's a long shot at this point.

JdJohnston
JdJohnston

@carnage_2012 well, if they do back in, it is because the teams in front of them didn't want it and didn't take care of business. If those teams win, then OSU is staying put.

Andrey
Andrey

@jffinn @RichW @nyhoukcdal 

If we follow your logic why is Alabama #1, outside of beating Texas A&M they beat nobody good, get my point?

RichW
RichW

@jffinn @RichW @nyhoukcdal 

I admit I hate Notre Dame. "Coach" Kelly quit on his Bearcats team right before their biggest game in history just to take the Notre Dame gig a few weeks early. I know, I know, this is "standard" procedure in college football, and it sucks. They should finish out what they started. What would we think if a player left his team just before the huge game to become a professional in the NFL? The message he left his young players is it is ok to quit on what you start if a better offer comes along. These young players player their hearts out for him and made him rich BTW.

ShifterKart
ShifterKart

@MikeNPS @carnage_2012 

If ohio state get to title game against one of the top three it will be about the same as the title game last year........