Posted October 27, 2013

AP Poll: Alabama and Oregon remain at the top, Missouri falls after Week 9

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Missouri's perfect season is over, as is its brief top-10 stay in the AP poll. (Peter Aiken/Getty Images)

Missouri’s perfect season is over, but its top-10 placement in the AP poll continues. (Peter Aiken/Getty Images)

With top teams jockeying for position and showing off for voters in blowouts, the magic cup game of the rest of the AP Poll is still going on as we get closer to finding out who’ll survive and who’ll fall.

Missouri was the big loser in Week 9, falling five spots after its heartbreaking loss in double overtime to South Carolina. Virginia Tech was erased from the rankings entirely after the team’s home loss to Duke. Texas Tech also dropped from No. 10 to No. 15, with winner Oklahoma moving up to No. 13. South Carolina climbed up to No. 14 after the Gamecocks’ win over the Tigers, and eighth-ranked Auburn jumped up three spots.

The complete AP Poll (with first-place votes in parenthesis) is below:

1. Alabama (55)
2. Oregon (3)
3. Florida State (2)
4. Ohio State
5. Baylor
6. Stanford
7. Miami
8. Auburn
9. Clemson
10. Missouri
11. LSU
12. Texas A&M
13. Oklahoma
14. South Carolina
15. Texas Tech
16. Fresno State
17. UCLA
18. Oklahoma State
19. UCF
20. Louisville
21. Northern Illinois
22. Wisconsin
23. Michigan
24. Michigan State
25. Arizona State

Here are a few thoughts from this week’s results:

• Hey, welcome back Arizona State. The Sun Devils slipped in at No. 25 despite being idle this week. Gotta love the bye week strength of schedule boost. No matter how controversial the finish was, that Wisconsin win is going to be a good one all year, and that offense is for real. If ASU can find a way to sustain some momentum, there’s a very real chance it could play its way into the Pac-12 title game.

• Northern Illinois was surely scoreboard watching as Fresno State struggled with San Diego State on Saturday night (it was late; maybe the Huskies watched Sunday morning on tape delay). The Bulldogs were able to escape in overtime to stay at No. 16, and NIU picked up an easy win over Eastern Michigan. The voters will keep the Huskies a bit lower until their stretch against Ball State and Toledo. If Northern Illinois makes it out of that sequence in one piece, that could give them the boost they need to climb in the rankings.

• Voters were clearly impressed with Oklahoma’s win over Texas Tech, as the Sooners jumped four spots. The team seems to suffer a tough injury each week, this time losing fullback Trey Millard for the season with a knee injury, and Oklahoma will have a huge challenge keeping pace with Baylor’s offense next Thursday.

65 comments
6marK6
6marK6

The overrating of the SEC must end. So Alabama is great, that does not mean that every other average team with two losses in their conference should be Top 12.

6marK6
6marK6

Show me the formula where a Baylor can play absolutely nobody and be ranked #5. All of this BCS is nonsense. Look at Texas A&M, no wins against any ranked teams, horrible out of conference schedule, #12! Reward teams that play tough out of conference games and don't reward the pounding of chumps.

Chessmaster
Chessmaster

SEC with 6 teams in the top 14, even with most having multiple losses. More proof (as if any were needed) that its fixed. Auburn goes from unranked to #8 in 2 weeks? If one falls, another takes their place. Worthless poll... worthless system.

RedFalcon
RedFalcon

As I said, everybody has an opinion.

Nine Vegetable
Nine Vegetable

Most of you aren't going to like this, but the National Championship game is going to be between Alabama and Ohio State - provided Alabama makes it that far.

MarkCleary
MarkCleary

Once again, a team with a loss is jumped over the #7 team in the nation.  Because losing is better than barely winning, as long as the team who barely wins is Miami.  If the NCAA fails to screw us, someone else will find a way.

I have a question, though.  I know none of you geniuses think we have a prayer in hell of beating FSU.  But if we do, what will your justification be for us not being ranked #3?

RedFalcon
RedFalcon

I live in the East, but agree with you that the western teams no respect.  The Pac-12 is the toughest conference in the country - most of the losses for Pac-12 teams are within their own conference. They clean up when playing the rest of the country.

JeffBockert
JeffBockert

As usual, these polls are a joke. UCLA barely lost to Stanford and was tied with Oregon at half. Somehow they are ranked clear down at 17 because they lost to the number 2 and number 6 teams... go figure. UCLA would stomp a mud hole in Baylor, Miami, Auburn and Clemson. Auburn only beat Washington state because the refs refused to make any pass interference calls and allow and pick 6 to stand when the defender clearly stepped out of bounds. It's painfully obvious that the system is biased. They need to have as many voters in the west as they do the east to balance out this crappy popularity contest. 

RedFalcon
RedFalcon

You are probably right, but I think a 16 team playoff would not be feasible.  It would take too long.  But at least with the 4 team playoff there won't be anymore unbeaten 3rd ranked teams that get screwed.

BobRayTalbot
BobRayTalbot

Even the playoff system won't really answer the question until there is at least 16 teams in the playoffs. 

RedFalcon
RedFalcon

Yes, everyone has their opinion, but you are right, no really knows until each team plays the other and that's the best reason for a rejiggered playoff structure.

BobRayTalbot
BobRayTalbot

Oregon is good, no doubt; but I'll believe somebody can beat Saban in a championship game when somebody actually does it.  Till then, Alabama gets my vote.  Also, Clemson seems good on paper, but...they don't deliver at crunch time. And they're coach thinks they're just as good as FSU. Please.  And, nobody is looking, but Texas is beginning to make some noise...and they could cause some real problems for Baylor and Tech. Just sayin'.

ShifterKart
ShifterKart

So, here we go again with strength of schedule. Well after Miami loses to FSU, LSU and AU (Auburn) will be top ten teams. So UA (Bama) has to play them both before an SEC title game (hopefully). So there are two top ten teams in 4 weeks.  

RedFalcon
RedFalcon

I think your comments are a bit over the top, but there does seem to be some bias.  Personally, I don't think any team in the country could touch Oregon - including Alabama.

JeffBockert
JeffBockert

@6marK6 The program for the computer ranking criteria is "secret" any guess as to what is included? That is why they use their money connections to get their teams over rated at the beginning of the year too. They can say, wow, we beat three ranked teams this year and use that to somehow justify the fact that they get "voted" into the championship game every year. It's a complete scam and I hope fans of west coast teams will stop buying any products advertised on ESPN so that we can start to get rid of the corporate collusion between the SEC and ESPN. 

JeffBockert
JeffBockert

@6marK6  Remember when they were saying - "The SEC is so tough that A&M and Missouri won't be able to compete"? Funny, they are two of the better teams in the SEC. It's the perfect evidence to show that it is pure media hype. UCLA would beat A&M and they fell clear down to 17 after losing to Oregon and Stanford. It's a joke. 

JeffBockert
JeffBockert

@Chessmaster   We all saw Washington State outplay Auburn at home. We need football fans with some intelligence to boycott anything advertised on ESPN or on the SEC network. We need to take the money out of the greedy guys pockets. 

6marK6
6marK6

@Nine Vegetable Alabama gets a free loss. The SEC always gets free losses, no other conference has that luxury. The hilarious thing is, the schedules the SEC plays are not tough! 

ShifterKart
ShifterKart

@Nine Vegetable VT did not help FSU what so ever........ 

FSU will jump Oregon when they beat Miami, then Oregon will jump back when they beat Stanford.

Bama has to play LSU & AU both of whom will be top 10 after Miami loses.........

FSU should be in it as Bama could lose to those two and Oregon only has Stanford left that's any good.

RTR..........

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@MarkCleary And the diabolical conspiracy against Miami continues from all angles.   At least you and your team of football detectives have gotten it out in the open so the outrage cannot go on much longer.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@RedFalcon The anti-western bias is completely played out.   It died with the rise of the internet and the proliferation of televised games.   Maybe you watch different games than the rest of us but the Pac-12 has not been cleaning up when playing the rest of the country over the past few years.  Oregon-Auburn, Oregon-LSU, USC-Notre Dame, Arizona St-Notre Dame, Cal-Ohio St, Oregon-Ohio St, Oregon St-Eastern Washington?!?,  Stanford-Notre Dame.   All losses over the past couple of seasons.  Not exactly cleaning up.

chad96
chad96

@JeffBockert Perhaps if west coast teams had more championships under their belts, they'd be taken more seriously.  The Pac has only claimed two outright national championships (i.e. no ties) since 1972 and USC claimed both of those titles.  1972.  According to my math, that's more than 40 years with only two championships.  Even counting the ties, USC is still the only dominant team.  

http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@JeffBockert Great point.   The rankings should be changed and be based on halftime scores.

HerschelAnderton
HerschelAnderton

@JeffBockert i doubt ucla would dominate any of those teams you mentioned.  they could beat them, sure.  but, you sound like a fan-boy.  espn.com is probably more your scene.

Omagus
Omagus

@JeffBockert"UCLA would stomp a mud hole in Baylor"
--

Um...you may want to reconsider this one. We kinda have recent evidence to the contrary.

Ryan19
Ryan19

@RedFalcon If a 16 team playoff would take too long, why is the FCS able to run a 20 team playoff?  

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@RedFalcon The beautiful thing about the playoff system is that there will still be a human element involved in choosing the teams so you chronic complainers will get to go on without losing a beat.

rangerfrankbz
rangerfrankbz

@RedFalcon Oregon might perform better than they did the last time they played a decent SEC team.  Hope we get to find out.

jeffcooper71
jeffcooper71

@6marK6 @Nine Vegetable If OSU was not under a bowl ban last year, they would have played for the National Championship instead of Alabama.  As that game clearly showed, a one loss SEC team is better than most if not all undefeated teams from other conferences.

Ryan19
Ryan19

@ShifterKart @Nine Vegetable Oregon has a tougher remaining schedule than FSU.  You say that Oregon only has Stanford left that's any good, but that is simply not true.  At least according to the computer rankings.  After Stanford, they play Utah, Arizona, and Oregon State.  They are between 25 and 45 in almost all of the rankings.  Compare that to Wake Forest, Syracuse, and Idaho.  FSU will probably play a top 10 Miami in the ACC Championship, but Oregon will probably be playing against a top 20 UCLA (or ASU).  For FSU to get into the title game, they will need either Bama or Oregon to drop a game.  

stiffasaward
stiffasaward

@JoeCabot @RedFalcon  

I guess losing to Maine (MS St),  LA-Monroe (Ala and ARK), Boise St (GA), Utah (Ala), Western KY (KY), Wyoming (TN), WVU (GA), USC (AUB 23-0), USC (ARK 70-17 & 50-14) can also be considered "not exactly cleaning up"

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@Ryan19 Do you really have to ask that question?  You need to pay closer attention.  The FCS teams start their playoffs in November and play through December.  They also play at home sites.   Do you really think that the FBS teams are going to give up regular season games and bowl games to run a playoff in November and December?   And they certainly are not going to do it in January and February.

Rod7
Rod7

@JeffBockert @BobRayTalbot I like a 10 team playoff, using the Current (and soon to be former) BCS bowl selection system for selecting the 10 teams

ShifterKart
ShifterKart

@Ryan19 @ShifterKart @Nine Vegetable 

Bama has the best chance of losing out of the 3. They Play LSU and AU. Plus Mizzou. Both teams (LSU & AU vs. UA always goes back and forth (except AU last year) and they will be top 10s.  So of the 3 Bama will lose before the other two. Hmm good point forgot FSU is in the ACC....... looks like it will be Either Oegon UA or Oregon FSU baring some huge disaster. As long as OSU is not one of the two. They remind me of Notre DUmb last year. I think the top 3 would beat Ohio about as badly as UA beat ND last year......

RTR..........

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@MarkCleary Where did I disagree with you?   I think that this is a conspiracy that goes deeper than we know and will ever know.  I would venture a guess that it involves the Bilderberg Group, the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, and the CIA.   Or maybe the voters were not impressed with UM's performance against that powerhouse from Wake Forest.

JoeCabot
JoeCabot

@stiffasaward Absolutely.   That is why this constant whining about who plays who is so laughable.