Posted October 03, 2013

Report: Alabama strength coach placed on leave for loaning money to Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

Alabama Crimson Tide
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

Suspended ‘Bama safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix reportedly received a loan of money from a strength coach. (Butch Dill/AP)

One day after Alabama safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix was suspended indefinitely for violating team rules, a Crimson Tide strength coach has been placed on administrative leave for providing impermissible benefits to Clinton-Dix, The Tuscaloosa News reports.

Corey Harris, an assistant strength and conditioning coach at Alabama, was placed on leave after it was discovered that Harris made a short-term loan to Clinton-Dix over the summer. The amount was less than $500, and Clinton-Dix provided bank records to Alabama’s compliance department that show a withdrawal in the amount he said he repaid to Harris.

Harris’ loan would be in violation of NCAA Bylaw 16.11.2.2, which states that “an institutional employee or representative of the institution’s athletics interests may not provide a student-athlete with extra benefits or services, including, but not limited to … a loan of money.”

The Alabama compliance office also reportedly found evidence suggesting Harris had a connection with a representative of a sports agent, but there was no evidence to show that Clinton-Dix had any contact with an agent.

42 comments
Hashtag#
Hashtag#

jim boeheim is an idiot. keep defending bernie fine. pay the players.

Hashtag#
Hashtag#

pay the players. the end.

foolproof123
foolproof123

So he showed a bank statement with a withdrawal and that's proof he paid?  Not he showed the bank statements where the check cleared and the loan was repaid.   A withdrawal.   Just like Johnny Football says, if its cash, it never happened.   That doesn't sound like proof to me but everyone takes Bama at their word that its proof.  

BradConner
BradConner

OK, so a player can go to a bank, get a loan and repay the loan with interest...but another person: a coach offering to help a kid out who said he would repay...and did...is wrong???  How messed up are we as a society when we are bound by laws NOT to help another person???  There was no added benefit to either one.  The only thing that happened was one friend helped out another friend...it just so happened that the friend was also a coach.  I'm fed up with the NCAA and their biased rules!!!

Fifilo
Fifilo

Oh, heck, Cam got six figures and the got to keep their titles and stuff. ESPN won't let nothign bad happen to the cash cows.

Choutsu
Choutsu

Unbiased view.

This is a school's compliance dept. doing what it is suppose to. Something like this, totally internal, less than $500, could have been swept under a rug, but they jumped on it, and reported it for what it is. If major penalties are enforced for this it sends the message that teams shouldn't do the right thing. Might as well ignore small instances like this and hope for the best.

Good doesn't necessarily mean cheating. I just think Saban, like him or hate him, is good and works very hard. The PAC (Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, are getting really, really good. They must be cheaters? Also, stop with the SEC= cheaters whining bit. Look at the history of major violations and even recent major violations and it is a scattershot of programs like Oklahoma, USC, Arizona State, North Carolina, Bama, Minnesota, Washington, SMU, Penn, Ohio State, Miami, etc

Tyler_Durden
Tyler_Durden

The link to this article was pretty misleading.

Aggie81
Aggie81

I seriously doubt that sanctions will occur or that Alabama will have to forfeit any games this season that Dix has played in so far...  That would be a CHEAP way for A&M to make it to the SEC Championship game...


JimBooli
JimBooli

Is Ha Ha Clinton related to Hee Hee Johnson by any chance?

WHO*IS*ESPN
WHO*IS*ESPN

Remember, Latrell Spreewell had to feed his family too...on 10 million per year...and he starved !

MarkNabors
MarkNabors

HaHa Clinton-Dix drives a 2012 Dodge Charger too.  How can he afford that?

SpenserCammack
SpenserCammack

Not a 'Bama fan at all, but much is made of a less than $500 loan that was repaid, are we really watching out for the right problems? There are scandals in college sports, but this ain't one of them.


donald5
donald5

Well isn't this what a compliance department is supposed to do?  If a coach and player is doing something wrong, aren't the institutional controls supposed to be in place to CATCH and REPORT things like this? How can Alabama win here?  They saw their coach and player misbehaving and promptly reported it to the NCAA.  Are you supposed to be able to know this will happen before it happens?  What else are they supposed to do?  College football players will ask for and accept money regardless of what team they play for.  The thing is, the backup longsnapper for Idaho isn't going to get watched by his compliance department and there are not going to be too many people offering him a loan or extra cash.  This is why Ohio State and USC got nailed.  They were not watching their kids and someone other than the schools reported the stuff to the NCAA.  It is a huge difference to the NCAA when a school self reports and when they have to hear it from some Yahoo reporter.  Hell, Ohio State didn't get nailed for tattoos.  They got nailed because their head coach had emails to prove he knew and then lied to the NCAA.  I seriously doubt Ohio State gets much more than a few vacated wins, if that, if Tressell had immediately gone to the NCAA with the email about Pryor.  He would have had to sit a few games like AJ Green did and pay back the tattoo value.  This probably won't amount to much and people are going to claim the SEC is getting away with it again.  It is amazing what happens when a compliance department is proactive in investigating and reporting the wrongdoings in their own program.  They are trying to keep their own house clean and are probably going to get publicly chastised for doing the right thing.  All the programs that have gotten nailed as of recently DID NOT turn their own people in.  NONE OF THEM.  It had to come from someone else outside of the university.  Can someone name me a program that was completely diligent in reporting their own violations that got the book thrown at them by the NCAA.  

mbroncofan
mbroncofan

man...another great kid and athlete endangering his future for a few bucks.  I used to think it was foolish, but if you have no money, things are tough...even if you do get room and board.  For God's sake...you would like to take your girlfriend to the movie!  My understanding is, these kids aren't allowed to have a part time job any more either.  What are they supposed to do?  Let's figure out a way to help the kids and these problems go away.  Less than $500...sad.

Huskerstildeath
Huskerstildeath

So much smoke coming from Bama lately, so much smoke, yet, I bet the NCAA does nothing, cause is the SEC, they are not above the law, they are the law.

humdrumdrumhumming
humdrumdrumhumming

loan?


right.


the SEC, where perception is everything...


and


Scandal

Equals

Creativity

humdrumdrumhumming
humdrumdrumhumming

@BradConner

does someone at the bank have ulterior motives?


"friend helping a friend"?

strength coach at the univerity of alabama with ties to an agent gives money to a player projected to go in the first round of next year's draft and that's a friend helping a friend?

no, that's someone trying to ingratiate himself for a much larger payday with a cheap down payment...


these aren't "biased rules", these are rules set in place ahead of time...


allowing university representatives to loan money to athletes is simply setting the table to pay them, you may agree with paying them, but that's not allowed... and everybody is Supposed to play by the same rules..


ps there's no proof he repaid the coach, there's only Dix's word...

which is one of many loopholes which would allow people to pay athletes by loaning them money..


Wesley7
Wesley7

@Aggie81 Given the low amount of money, the paper trail of repayment, and the (hopefully) immediate action taken on behalf of the staff upon finding out about the infraction, forfeiture does seem like a long shot and extreme over-reaction. Though were I Saban, I'd have fired the coach without question, but could be that he's nicer than I am.

donald5
donald5

@MarkNabors Any car the players drive must be reported to the athletic department with details regarding the ownership and the financing.  That information is provided to the NCAA.  A player can get a Pell Grant or any other type of student loan.  That isn't the answer you wanted but there it is.

humdrumdrumhumming
humdrumdrumhumming

@donald5 

Your analysis isn't ENTIRELY wrong.


But I can't help but notice you're an SEC fan who just based his entire defense of this crooked university on the premise that all players are cheaters.


I guess we'll just put that down to nurture over nature.


Our reality is all we've ever known --- and in the SEC's case it's cheaters.



mashley278
mashley278

@Huskerstildeath It's not Alabama's fault, nor the SEC's fault that Nebraska sucks. That is your college's fault. Considering the fact that Pelini came from Les Miles, who is likely the dirtiest coach in the country (even dirtier now that the OSU stuff is coming out), I'd be a little more worried about my Huskers. Nick Saban has been at Toledo, MSU, LSU, and Bama, never has been accused of any major violations. In fact, he routinely, like this one, reports them before the media ever knows. So good luck with that.

donald5
donald5

@humdrumdrumhumming @donald5 And I can't help but notice your other comments seem to heavily gravitate towards disparaging anything and everything Alabama.  I can't imagine that could possibly cloud your objectivity.

donald5
donald5

@humdrumdrumhumming @donald5 FYI, I didn't say all players were cheaters.  I said college players will ask for money.  People will ask for money too.  That isn't a blanket indictment of every person on earth as the first statement isn't an indictment on all players.  People will be stupid.  See... I didn't say everyone.  Just some.

donald5
donald5

@humdrumdrumhumming @donald5 What a well constructed and thoughful response.  You certainly proved how wrong I was, point by point.  I concede to your astonishing debate skills.

humdrumdrumhumming
humdrumdrumhumming

@donald5

how dare you call me myopic, 

i'm committed to disparaging the entire SEC...


i must be playing favorites, thank you for pointing that out..

here


both LSU and Tenn will both have two bye weeks and an FCS opponent in their last eight game days..


this is a common SEC practice which helps america's sleaziest conference float up the rankings for no reason when it truly matters...


america's "toughest" conference will actually play almost the same exact number of games against ranked teams in conference as the Big Ten this year..


and teams in the Pac 12 will play significantly more ranked teams in conference than the SEC this season..

if you make me prove it you'll regret it..


the Crimson Tide are awesome, when they aren't cheating...


is that better?


humdrumdrumhumming
humdrumdrumhumming

@donald5

what does a blanket indictment mean? 

have you not just stated explicitly that your original assertion implied  ---  players at all schools will ask for money?

that is a blanket indictment.. (i would argue that sentence was  not nearly that finite, but i don't have to)

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how is outraged second paragraph materially different from these at the end of my last?

(other than the fact you've inserted DUI's, violence and arrests into the argument out of thin air to make this cheating look good)

ME

it sounds like you intended it as some players are always going to ask for money..

but i think it would be an enormous stretch to say you haven't implied that some players on every team are always going to ask for money...

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it was you who began this exercise by feigning outrage that i had the audacity to insert the word all while poking fun at your original statement.....

just so could equivocate with the america's preeminent SEC basher...

if you want to claim victory in your some/all semantics exercise please do so.... it was you who introduced the word some, i used it only in response to you....

when i interpreted the spirit of your sentence perhaps it was influenced by your opening statement... 

but making fun of me for interpreting your less than finite sentence by magically turning it into a finite statement --which you just did explicitly -- is odd...

however, your entire first statement is based on the premise that players will cheat at every school, (this is cheating)... you go on and on about the proper way to handle your cheating, say explicitly you meant players at every school do this, and now you gear up for a knock down drag-out battle based on the notion you haven't slandered any college football players in the slightest?

now who's being naive?

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but let's just skip to the payoff shall we?


you tried to score a cheap point in semantics after claiming players at every school try to get paid, and you actually suggested with your little nod at idaho that it's happening at smaller schools just as often...


but as a former division one athlete from a smaller school i take offense to your statement...


painting those outside the SEC with your embarrassingly low standards of what will be justified after the fact should make you embarrassed for doing so...


i'm not the one being naive, your the one acting like semantics is more important than fudging on ethics, or slandering an entire population based on the premise that it isn't a big deal so it's ok that this guy cheated, and let's extend our indictment so we all feel better about the lack of ethics in our conference...


you're the one who just sleazily brought up DUI's, arrests and violence to win an argument on another subject...

not only did you do that, you extended your slander to the character of this entire population to once again make you feel better, and try to win an argument...

why don't i bring up rape and murder for some misdirection, or shall we keep our eye on the ball..

.

loaning money to college athletes is one of the single biggest ways to game the  system, it's been abused forever because it's so easy to hide the money, which is why they have to be even more vigilant on even the smallest of sums --- i can tell you $500 is not a small sum for an event like this, it's not huge, but significant is appropriate...

this IS a big deal, ALL players knows monetary transactions are not only off limits, they are one of the worst transgressions.. they're reminded of this time and time again.. 

if you want them to get paid then get out there and do something about it, but if you want schools overlooking these practices until then while tens of thousands of student athletes across the country following these rules go without that money, you don't have proper perspective...


if you believe the SEC "goes about things the right way" then you don't have your priorities straight... 

and if you think this practice is OK, then perhaps it is time for some self reflection...


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all that so you could tell me you said players at every school cheat but not all 

(yes misrepresented your people will for all, acknowledged... but as i say, you've said it happens at every school, and you've acknowledged that, and you've just made giant error by claiming you made a finite implication, which is absurd in and of itself, but i could care less..)


grammar, syntax and semantics are boring, but if you want to get you ahzzz handed to you on content sometime 


i'm your huckleberry...

donald5
donald5

@humdrumdrumhumming @donald5 You seem to be under the impression that the failure to say "some" tacitly means that I implied "all".  When people say baseball players used steroids, does it mean all of them did?  No.  When people say football players will grab and pinch at the bottom of the pile does it mean all of them... no.  So now that I have completely disprove your "lack of some means all" you go into the "spirit" of what I said.  I see that you have now created a mind reading device.  That is quite impressive.  Sorry but your interpretation was wrong.  It happens.   

My implication was that out of the 85 players on every team in the country, there are probably at least one or two, if not more, that would ask a coach for a short term loan if they really needed it.  Oh NOOOO!!!!  What a crazy and evil indictment!!! Look at arrest nation dot com.  Look at the number of football players that are arrested every year.  You think the kids who go out and get violently drunk or have a DUI would draw the line at asking for a loan????  That is where they draw their line on morality.  Drunk driving is ok but God forbid you ask for a loan.  Don't be so naive.  

humdrumdrumhumming
humdrumdrumhumming

@donald5

no, you didn't say all


but you also didn't say some..


"College football players will ask for and accept money regardless of what team they play for. "


i think the spirit of your statement suggests that players will always ask for money... 

that's my honest interpretation..


(and in the literal sense you've actually said "college football players = people who will ask for and accept money"... i wouldn't hold that sentence to that standard, but it could be... no?)


and it WAS a blanket indictment, but i wouldn't perceive it as explicit either way..

it sounds like you intended it as some players are always going to ask for money..

but i think it would be an enormous stretch to say you haven't implied that some players on every team are always going to ask for money...

no?


(at the very least it's less than finite writing, but you're pretty smart for an sec fan)


sweet hat