Posted September 25, 2013

D-I athletic directors slam ‘pay-for-play’ support

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Morgan Burke, president of the Division 1A Athletic Directors’ Association, is against pay for play. (Joe Robbins/Getty Images)

Groups representing Division-I college athletic directors released a joint statement Wednesday affirming their commitment to improving college athletics and slamming the support for a “pay-for-play” model.

A record 120 members of the Division 1A Athletic Directors’ Association attended this week’s Division 1A AD’s meetings, where members discussed options of how to improve the overall product of intercollegiate athletics.

“As a group, the athletics directors are engaged in developing recommendations that will improve the governance and operation of intercollegiate athletics,” said Morgan Burke, president of the Division 1A Athletic Directors’ Association and athletics director at Purdue University.

But one issue that wasn’t supported by the group was student-athlete compensation. Mike Alden, president of NACDA and athletics director at the University of Missouri, said the country’s athletic directors are unified in a stand against compensating players.

The athletics directors are chiefly concerned with public dialogue that does not accurately reflect the true value of intercollegiate athletics to student-athletes.

“Pay for play has no part in the amateur setting,” Burke said, noting that the value of a full scholarship and direct support services at Purdue has a value in excess of $250,000. Plus, student-athletes with a full scholarship have no loan to pay back, an expense that could run upwards of $200,000 at Purdue.

Instead, because of “public dialogue that does not accurately reflect the true value of intercollegiate athletics to student-athletes,” the group opted to focus on revamping “governance and operation.”

Realizing that differences exist among the 351 Division I programs, Burke said, “Changes need to reflect such variances, while preserving and building upon areas of common interest.”

37 comments
JimKirkwood1
JimKirkwood1

he athletics directors are engaged in developing recommendations that will improve the governance and operation of intercollegiate athletics,”. Translation, "make us even more money"

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

This is like the slave owners complaining about emancipation. A free labor force is not to be given up without a fight.

MidwestGolfFan
MidwestGolfFan

This article, summarized in one sentence:

D-I Athletic Directors are furious that the indentured servants on the field would dare to try sharing some the millions the ADs are raking in.

hansen100357
hansen100357

What a bunch of hypocrites!  They know darn well they pay their best athletes under the table.  

tallaman87
tallaman87

Players...free education, exposure to national audience, professional coaches to develop their skills, world-class organizations to compete in and against other schools. Without the schools, the players go straight to the pros, maybe, and play minor league football where they are poorly paid until they're ready for the big league. Quit complaining and just take advantage of the opportunity before you. Players should not be paid. 

bubbalooey
bubbalooey

The money schools make off of football goes to fund all the other college sports programs that can't support themselves, and federal government mandated that colleges have female sports programs that nobody watches, like female basketball, baseball, pillow fighting.........  If you pay the players with an education plus a couple hundred thousand a year you will have to raise tuition on kids wanting only a education........

leehwgoc
leehwgoc

Of course the ADs hate the idea.  Their current salaries would have to be significantly docked if the so-called 'student-athletes' in sports like football and basketball started being appropriately compensated for the highly profitable *work* they do for their colleges and universities.

hubrob107
hubrob107

Why don't all the ADs work for room and board for one year.  I am sure they get housing and meals from the schools they work for currently.  Let them exchange their annual salary for room and board.  The salary can be divided among the athletes in revenue generating sports.

drunkLobster
drunkLobster

I wonder what the US Dept of Labor would do if country's automotive industry CEOs were united in a stand against compensating workers.

souvien
souvien

Why should a cartel change a system that yields millions to administrators, coaches, bowl committee scumbags etc...especially when they only have to give the players effin barter in return? 

MakesSense
MakesSense

Let the market set the price.  If schools can lawfully compensate players but those schools decide that a free education is enough compensation, then I guess no players will get paid.  What are the chances of that?  How many players actually complete their degree anyway? Or, allow football players to be eligible for the draft out of high school instead of forcing them to play college football for free.

OwenCaterwall3
OwenCaterwall3

Well here's a surprise. Of course they don't want the workers paid. It might come out of their pockets. It's not like these scholarships are guaranteed. What a bunch of hypocritical jackwagons.

TrentonJocz
TrentonJocz

@CFBguy Everyone else gets paid market value in this country except for them. They should be paid.

Rickapolis
Rickapolis

Let me add, the slaves got 'free' food, 'free' medical care, and, oh yes, 'free' board. So what were they complaining about? Right????

evetsyarsh
evetsyarsh

@tallaman87 if they're injured they're "cut" (non renewal of year to year scholarships) and get to pay for their own medical expenses. Most players don't go to pros.


And of course the athletic directors are against it--they get bonuses for how well the players play. Players take the risk, AD's and coaches get the bonuses.

Ciscos
Ciscos

@bubbalooey ~ Good point, but not entirely accurate. The majority of D1 schools make the bulk of their athletic department money from their respective football programs.  That money, indeed, goes to fund those other sports programs and Title Nine requirements.  However, some of that money is siphoned off into other nonathletic campus programs.  That said, you're not going to pay a student athlete "... a couple of hundred thousand a year...".  In addition, whatever is paid to a student athlete either up front or via a trust account would come from the athletic budget - and not the university's general fund.  The only, and very minor uptick you might see is the ticket prices, not tuition.

bubbalooey
bubbalooey

@drunkLobster I would imagine the workers would stay home, no cars would get made, car companies would go out of business, all CEO's would go on welfare, which is paid by you.

CFBguy
CFBguy

@TrentonJocz so ur also saying non-revenue S-A with market value below scholarship should payback school? Everyone else in country has 2

ApolloOne
ApolloOne

@bubbalooey 

I'd like to add that minimum booster contributions would go up as well.

D.Moore
D.Moore

@KeithMorehouse @Chris_PHS89 @SInow  what about alienating the players!!  players getting something for all the hard work they have to do, and believe me it's more than just showing up and playing ball! You don't seem to mind the coaches making millions off of kids, imagine you going to work and putting out this great product and putting in all the effort and time and then your boss getting all the rewards! How alienated would you feel?!!!

TrentonJocz
TrentonJocz

@CFBguy Make it open market and schools can pay for those players too if they want. Missy Franklin would have gotten quite a bit.

CFBguy
CFBguy

@TrentonJocz granted only fb and bb get full scholarship , but I never saw a hungry one, most couldn't finish team provided meals

CFBguy
CFBguy

@TrentonJocz the way I saw meal $, rent $, pell $ wasted and gambled then saw same guys complain no $ will never make me think pay 4 play

CFBguy
CFBguy

@TrentonJocz scholarship cost next 2 nothing 2 a college wow you realize scholarships come out of ath dept budget and are paid back 2 school

TrentonJocz
TrentonJocz

@CFBguy I'm positive that wouldn't happen though because every D-1 college has the money to keep those sports afloat anyway.

TrentonJocz
TrentonJocz

@CFBguy sports, where the sport functions more like an extracurricular club that the athlete has to pay to participate in.

TrentonJocz
TrentonJocz

@CFBguy Ignoring that the fact that a scholarship costs almost nothing to the college to provide, there are plenty of sports that are club

CFBguy
CFBguy

@TrentonJocz (3/3) non-revenue S-As should pay difference if their market value is worth less then scholarship value "everyone else" does

CFBguy
CFBguy

@TrentonJocz (2/3) sell product at market value and still don't cover cost owe creditors and go in debt, so using your reasoning

CFBguy
CFBguy

@TrentonJocz (1/2) you said everyone else gets market value in the country so players should 2, well the in the real world businesses that

CFBguy
CFBguy

@TrentonJocz missed my point players that have scholarship worth more then fair market value would end up owing the school $$ with your view